Duchovny confirms all those so
laid back hes horizontal rumours. But if he gets really
nervous on set, he says: "I take it out on someone else."
You've sung on TV with Barenaked Ladies.
You've just written and directed an episode of The X Files. And
you're preparing for a new life where people come up to you and
say:
Didnt you used to be ?
David Duchovny is in the middle of possibly
the busiest week of his life. Hes just finished writing
and directing his first episode of The X-Files and is working
on the post-production; his wife (actress Téa Leoni) is
about to give birth to their first child any minute; and hes
still required for a dialogue-heavy episode of the supernatural
hit show. Yet on set hes remarkably calm, in good humour
and seems happy to make some time for the interview.
These days Hollywood is awash with actors
and actresses talking about new challenges, stretching themselves
and boasting of the lengths to which they have gone to really
get inside their role.
Duchovny is refreshingly free from all
this cant. Hes always refused to take himself too seriously,
once greeting a question about his family background with the
quip:" Im half Scottish and Im half Jewish, so
dont ask me for money." Even when he ventures into
some meaningful philosophical discussion, a taste he acquired
as a Ph.D candidate at Yale University, he pulls back from full-blown
intellectual pretention. Asked in one of his first interviews
why he'd decided to become an actor instead of finishing his Ph.D,
he said: "You may think you're making decisions, but as Kierkegaard
said: `The moment of decision is madness.' If you could look inside
your mind at that moment, all you would find is craziness and
confusion. I think he was talking about every decision, including
ordering food. But at some point you just say [and here he bangs
the table] `Goddamit, I'll have the muesli'.
When he was picked to play Mulder, his
biggest relief was that he didn't have to wear a dress "The
first time I played an FBI agent [as transvestite Denise Bryson
in Twin Peaks] I was modelled on J Edgar Hoover!" The show's
blurred boundaries between reality and fiction have helped to
propagate paranoia and conspiracy but Duchovny doesn't see this
as a problem. "There are people who think Melrose Place is
true - that's far more worrying." Today, hes in such
a fine mood, he even agrees to answer a few questions as his fictional
alter ego.
You were once asked what you and Mulder
have in common, and you answered: "We look alike."
[Laughs] Well, we still have that in
common. Except hes gotten older I havent aged
but he has.
Let's try a few more questions about
Mulder's character.
Go ahead, as long as you understand that
my answers might be a little tongue in cheek.
First, how would Mulder like to die?
Hmm. I think he should die in the way
that was forecast in an episode called Clyde Bruckman, where he
said he should die of auto-erotic asphyxiation [grins]. I'm kinda
looking forward to that episode - maybe next year.
Which historical character does he most
identify with?
Don Quixote, or in his case maybe it
should have been Don Quicksand! Or maybe Sherlock Holmes.
Where would Mulder go on holiday?
Florida during Spring Break [annual booze
binge for students] with all the college kids. That's about his
level of maturity.
Would he be participating or just observing?
He'd be there on the sidelines hoping
he'd be asked to join in.
Which living person would he most admire?
Muhammed Ali. I don't know why [laughs].
No - because he deserves to be admired. I think everybody should
admire Muhammed Ali.
There's been a lot of speculation on
the Internet about whether or not Mulder is Jewish. Any thoughts
on that?
There's kind of a gently chiding anti-semitism
that passes in Hollywood and in TV, so you're kind of allowed
to make fun of Jews. As I'm half-Jewish, I think the writers have
felt theyd have their bases covered and they can take little
baby swipes at the size of my nose. I can guarantee that if I
was half black those jokes wouldn't be made, but hey - that's
Hollywood.
Still on Web-related topics, you've been
dubbed the first Internet sex symbol with hair - how do you feel
about that?
What? Was Patrick Stewart the first one
or something? He's got no hair anywhere? I really don't know him
that well, I'm afraid. [Grins] Well, considering the alternatives,
I'll take it as a compliment. Any time you're dubbed a sex symbol
it's very flattering that anyone would say that about you. I mean,
it's better than having somebody say you're a shit.
Do you get on the Net much at all?
No. I've only ever done it once a couple
of years ago at my manager's office. My assistant was showing
me some of the Web pages about The X-Files and me, and then he
showed me one of the chat rooms. I decided to get on and talk
to them but nobody would believe it was me! I was typing: "Hi,
it's David here" and they were responding: "Yeah, right!"
and I couldn't convince them it was me so I gave up! [laughs]
One interesting suggestion that has been
made there is that The X- Files is really based on Scooby Doo.
Really? [Grins] Well, it's very close.
Chris [Carter, the series' creator] always says his inspiration
was a show called Kolchak The Night Stalker but it could very
well have been Scooby Doo.
Scooby does sound a bit like Mulder's
nickname Spooky...
Spooky Doo? Hmm, I suppose so, but if
I was gonna be anybody from that show I'd be Shaggy [grins]. I
wish I could be more forthcoming but that's taken me by surprise.
I don't have a great answer but I can say I'm not insulted by
the idea.
How does your mother view your success?
She won't watch me if I get killed or
naked.
Youve just written and directed
your first episode of The X-Files. How was it?
Pretty nerve-racking actually, but in
the end I have to say everything worked out pretty well. It's
like an all-encompassing focus that you need to have for a month
and it's still going on. Each stage of post-production is just
as consuming and you don't want to let any little detail get away
from you at this point. It never really ends until the show goes
to air.
You were rained out for a couple of days
and you lost one of your actors to ill health after he'd already
done a few scenes. That couldn't have been easy.
These things happen. Sometimes you get
weather and we got weather! I was watching the news the other
day and they said that a Dodgers game had been washed out for
the first time since the 1980s, so it's bad luck but it happens.
You just have to get on with it. One of the actors did get sick
so we had to recast and reshoot, but it wasn't like we had to
deal with an earthquake or anything.
You didn't get paranoid enough to feel
that things were conspiring against you?
Well, Carol [Banker, script supervisor]
obviously was undermining me at every opportunity [laughter from
him and those nearby], but apart from that, no.
The episode is called The Unnatural,
presumably a play on the Robert Redford film The Natural, and
it involves baseball. How did you come up with the idea?
Well, I was lying in bed with Carol one
morning... [more laughter from colleagues]. No, seriously - it
was during the home-run race last year between Mark McGwire and
Sammy Sosa [both players broke a long-standing baseball record
for the number of home runs hit in season] and there was an article
in the paper about this minor league player who had hit more home
runs than anybody in organised baseball. He played on a team in
Roswell, New Mexico, an important location for UFO people. I just
made the association - what if this guy was an alien? - and started
working on that idea.
I made the guy black and factored in
Jackie Robinson going into the major leagues [the first black
baseball player to do so], which happened right around the time
of the Roswell mystery. So there were all these happy chronological
coincidences I was able to use, and the fact that I set it all
in the 1940s meant that I could do a lot of it in flashback, so
I didn't have to be so heavily involved as an actor. It kind of
all fell into place for me.
You specifically wanted Jesse Martin
for the title role, so were you heavily involved in casting?
Well, I'd seen Jesse in the musical Rent
a few years ago and he was great. Then I saw him on Ally McBeal
and he was great on that, and he just had the right feel. The
other major parts were all recurring characters, so I only really
cast Jesse.
You've never directed before. Did you
get the idea of how to do it by watching others in five and half
years on the show?
You have an idea, but you never really
know until you do it how specific it all is, or how much energy
you need. But I had a director of photography and a first assistant
director and a script supervisor, and they all know much more
than I do about this, so they kept me in line.
Is it an experience you'd want to repeat?
Yeah, if you have something that you
want to do. I really liked the idea that I directed, so it was
easy to be involved. It would be harder to spend that kind of
energy on something you didn't really believe in. But overall
my experience was good.
Now that you live and work in Los Angeles,
do you miss your hometown New York?
It depends on what I'm doing. I don't
know - I've been based in LA for ten years, so I could use a change
and New York would be nice, but I have no plans to move any time
soon.
As a native NewYorker have you ever sung
New York, New York after a few drinks?
[Grins] Not New York, New York, no. The
only song I've ever sung in front of people who weren't very close
to me, is Prince's If I Were Your Girlfriend. I did
it for an audition once.
What was the audition for?
I honestly don't remember, I just remember
singing it. Then more recently I sang on the Tonight Show with
Jay Leno. I sang with Barenaked Ladies.
So how did that come about?
They were appearing on a sitcom on the
same lot where we film. They like the show - they make a reference
to it in that song [One Week - "Watching X Files with no
lights on"]. They came by to visit and they said they were
doing Leno on that Friday And I said: `hey - I'm doing that show
too! Let me sing back up vocals for you?' And they said: `Sure!'
and I said: `No, I'm only kidding - I can't sing!' And they said:
`No, it'll be fine - don't worry' So I asked which song, and they
sent me their CD and I listened to it a million times So I said:
`Well, I can do the falsetto part and I can play the `egg' [a
miniature maracca] for you [grins]. So we worked up a little routine
and I did it. And I had a really great time doing it.
You also talked a bit on that show about
imminent parenthood. I know you chose not to know whether it's
going to be a boy or girl, but it seemed like you and Téa have
had some interesting discussions on names for the baby.
You mean Uniformed Cop? That's still
a possibility [grins]. Téa and I were talking about roles
that were meaningful to us at the start of our careers as possible
names for children. We thought it would be a nice link between
our lives and their lives. So we came up with a list that included,
for a boy, Uniformed Cop Duchovny or Man At Bar Duchovny. And
for a girl one of the possibilities was Hooker/Whore Duchovny!
And we had a couple that could be for either sex, like Passer
By Duchovny We thought it was funny but I'm not sure everybody
watching the show got it.
We've talked about music. What about
literature what was the last book you read?
Oh, that's a sad question - that's really
sad. I don't even know. I think it was The Sportswriter by Richard
Ford, but I'm not sure if I even finished it. I haven't been reading
much at all recently - my mum will be disappointed. But did you
know that reading is like the TV of the 15th century? It's respectable
now, but when it first came out they said it would kill young
minds [grins] with those fantasies and stories of faraway places
- just like they are saying now that computers are like that.
We say reading is good for you but I'm not so sure [smiles]. We're
probably the last generation that will read!
Did you have idols growing up and, it
so, who were they?
Yeah! Probably Mickey Mantle, Willie
Mays [baseball players], Walt Frasier - they're all athletes who
probably won't mean much in the UK.
No movie stars on the list?
No. I didn't know that acting was a profession.
I assumed that the people I saw on TV and in movies were like
that!
Did you watch any sci-fi shows on TV?
Star Trek.
Did you identify with any of the characters?
Kirk! And Scotty and Spock! Kirk because
he was the hero, Spock because he was cool. Scotty because he
was Scottish and my mother's Scottish. It was a show we watched
with my mum - she liked it, so we liked it. My dad [who wrote
the screenplay for a TV one-off called the Trial Of Lee Harvey
Oswald which proved he couldn't have shot John F Kennedy]
didnt like anything but if my parents liked a show, we got
to watch it.
You once said you grew up watching Benny
Hill.
Yeah, she liked Benny Hill and Monty
Python and the Two Ronnies - I saw all those.
Whats the most disappointing thing
about fame?
Probably that it doesn't go away! If
it goes away it turns into something ugly like infamy! You can't
just take it away. Once you're famous you're either still famous
or you used to be famous. So I guess it changes everything for
ever. Even if you dont have it anymore you're stuck with
it. You're in that embarrassing state or what people think of
as that humiliating state of having used to have been somebody.
[Grins] I don't think that's so bad. When we look at it from the
outside we think: Oh, that must be so terrible', but it
must be something of a relief for those people. I don't think
they really give a shit that someone thinks: Oh, they used
to be famous. As long as they're happy, who cares really!
Has being famous made Trust no
one a good motto for you?
It's more a case of `Be careful who you
trust: Sometimes people ask me to do an interview when I don't
really have anything new to say. There have been times when I've
done that and then a section will be taken out of context in some
tabloid - which may not bother me, but it might bother my family
or my friends who have to deal with the fall-out. That's why it's
easier when you have something specific to talk about, like a
new movie. I get just as scared as the next person when there's
nothing to focus on, because I don't want to have to try and be
more entertaining or charming than I'm actually capable of being.
[Grins] Have I put you off yet? Sometimes, it's a pain because
you can't watch people for the movement, the gesture, that you
can rip off and use later. Suddenly, it's you that's being watched
because you're famous.
I know you're not prepared for questions
like these, but what's your take on cloning?
Good and bad. I don't know, maybe it's
all bad - you know, growing ears on rats and stuff. But if I had
one ear I'd probably want to grow an ear for myself but I have
everything I need right now so it seems odd to think about people
cloning themselves. It seems to have shades of a master race and
so on, but hey [grins] - if I needed an ear I'd grow one on a
rat!
Looking back on nearly six years of The
X-Files, are there any worst or funniest moments?
Well it's not pleasant being out in the
cold and rain covered in gunk, but I don't really think about
worst times. Funny? There was a moment when we were doing an episode
called Small Potates and Darren Morgan, who's one of our writers,
was playing a guy who could change his shape and become me.
Hed been born with a tail, so I
was supposed to catch him and pull his pants down a little to
see the scar! And when I pulled, Ipulled them down all the way
and there was this full ass staring me in the face![laughs]. We
have the footage but I was just paralysed with laughter! I had
no idea his pants were that loose and I just pulled them right
down.
Thats not the first laugh youve
had with him, is it?
No [grins]. Early on - I think it was
in the second season - he had another role as a six-foot intestinal
worm. Now I'd never actually met Darren, and of course he was
in costume all the time I was working with him. Then I was flying
back to LA from Vancouver, and there was this guy sitting next
to me who kept talking to me and asking questions about the show,
and Im thnking Who the fuck is this guy ?. It
wasn't until we got to LA that he introduced himself and the penny
dropped!
What do you think of computer-generated
actors?
Which actors out there are computer generated?
Keanu Reeves looks like... totally real to me [grins]. I don't
know I suppose that - or cloning - would make it possible for
this show to go on for as long as people want it - and allow me
the time to go and do something else. They could computer-generate
me for years seven through 12 - that might be nice.
As long as they send you the cheques,
I presume?
Yeah! I don't know... It's a little scary
to think that your image could be manipulated after you're dead,
but then again its just an image. It's not really you -
it's not like the desecration of a corpse or anything.
Fred Astaires widow is leading
the argument over whether or not her husbands image should
be used in a commercial without payment of some kind.
I think they should get paid. It's like
an author leaves a body of work behind and they're producing plays
or movies out of that work. I think its like an inheritance
in a way, therefore your family or children should benefit from
that. If you have made your image public, which is a bargain that
you strike, you get money in return. If they continue to use that
after youre dead I think your family should get that money.
Is it true that you believe in ghosts?
Yeah, in a way. When my Scottish grandmother
was a girl, she says she saw her grandfather, who had drowned
a couple of years before, walk up to the crib where her younger
brother was sleeping, nod and walk out.
Your unfinished Ph.D dissertation entitled
Magic And Technology In Contemporary Fiction And Poetry- what
was that all about?
Lets just say it was a good topic.
If anybody wants it to finish their dissertation-help yourselves.
Finally, if science could guarantee that
you lived forever, would you want to?
Could I be fairly young? I don't want
to age forever. I mean, who would want to live forever if you
couldn't do anything except get older?
In a more Dorian Gray scenario?
Sure! I dont think anybody would
want to live forever without eternal youth of some kind. Or maybe
you'd take the offer and hope they figure out a way to keep me
young somewhere down the line? [Grins]. In those circumstances
I might be up for it! Let's face it, nobody really knows what
the alternatives are!
Isnt this where someones
supposed to say: The truth is out there?
[Grins] So they tell me!